Merry CHRISTMAS Whether You Celebrate it or Not!!!

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Let me start this post by saying, I’m not a very religious person. Honestly, I’m not even a little religious. I posted about it at the beginning of the year here, if you’re interested, and my only other religion-based post, is here. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on either or both.

I usually try to stay clear of religion as a subject, because those who are devout have made up their minds, and will never listen to a thing a secular person has to say. Not only have they made up their minds, but they sometimes want to make up your mind as well. Religion aside, my believes / opinions are my own, and I’ll share them if you like, but I’ll never force them on another person, thus I expect the same. I get very irritated when someone tells me their beliefs are fact, and that I’m wrong, so I don’t do it to others. I make sure to say things like “In my opinion” when saying things, or I just don’t say anything.

Christmas: The birthday celebration of Jesus, as least as far as the Christians are concerned. Originally, it had nothing to do with Jesus or Christianity, but it made for a hell of a marketing gimmick, so they changed it.

Now, before you start rolling your eyes at yet another “Christians stole pagan holidays” post (which I HAVE done in the past), I’m not going to bother here… There’s enough controversy around the fact (note, I didn’t call it an idea though… 😉 ) so believe what you will. The fact remains, there was a year end celebration long before Jesus. Jesus came (allegedly) and now there’s no year end celebration for the pagans… Coincidence??

ANYWAY. My beef here is that MOST of the world recognizes Christmas at LEAST as a holiday where kids get gifts from a fat guy who spies on us when we’re sleeping. Everyone knows what Christmas is, and every one’s heard of the Christmas spirit, even if they’ve never shared in it. It’s the spirit if giving, good will, blahblahblah.

My daughter goes to school with a Jehovah’s witness, which I have no problem with, whatsoever. To each his or her own. My problem is that if we decide to give greeting cards out, they can’t say “Christmas” on them. When the kids get a day to watch a movie, it can’t be The Grinch, so they had to watch “Babe”. BABE? C’mon. This poor kid couldn’t participate in the Thanksgiving play, because of his religion. Thanksgiving?? What does religion have to do with Thanksgiving? Granted I know nothing about Jehovah’s witness…ism? but is being thankful against the doctrine? Perhaps they don’t celebrate Christmas, but I’m willing to bet they wont be sitting in the classroom on the 25th!

I am not religious, as I’ve said, but I celebrate Christmas. If there was a Jesus, and it was his birthday, cheers. If there wasn’t, then you know what? I’ve worked my rump (pa pum pum) off all god damned year, I deserve some cologne and candy canes, and so do you. The vast majority is Christian, thus, when in Rome…

But hey! If you’re (insert other religion here), and you want to wish me a happy (C)Hanukhah, or Kwanza, or whatever! I’m perfectly fine with that, I will smile happily (I won’t even have to fake a smile!) and return the greeting. I don’t immediately think you’re trying to convert me, I don’t believe you’re trying to wish me your greeting instead of mine in an attempt to squash mine, etc… I just believe you’re wishing me the same peace, love and happiness you feel when you celebrate your holiday, and I thank you.

I am rather upset that because of ONE person’s religious views, MY child is denied the observation of perhaps the LEAST religiously precised of Christian holidays. I say that because the religious observe it, and the secular do as well… You don’t see crosses hanging in department stores, you see merchandise. You want me to refrain from wishing you a happy Ash Wednesday, that’s fine, I won’t. But if you can’t buy into Christmas because of it’s diminished religious ties, leave the people who do, alone, and just let them wish you good will how they know best.

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13 thoughts on “Merry CHRISTMAS Whether You Celebrate it or Not!!!

  1. I’ve taken to offering a politically correct Happy Holidays to folks I meet. It doesn’t really matter what the greeting is as long as it contains warmth and good wishes. I am not offended by Happy Yule, or Happy Hanekuh (sp?), Seasons Greetings, Merry Christmas or whatever people care to offer. And if they hand me a cookie or some other treat with it so much the better.

  2. LOVE cookies! :DYeah, perhaps I should have said that I don’t necessarily MIND saying “Happy Holidays”, the meaning is still there. It’s not like I’m trying to say “Happy Jesus’ Birthday!” but when people take offense and tell me I’m not ALLOWED to say “Merry Christmas” I get grumpy… Makes me almost consider saying religious things just to return the anger. …I can be a jerk like that. 🙂

  3. Matt, it takes too much energy to get all hot and bothered about things. I think what I think and others are entitled to the same. When someone comes down on me for something they deem politically INcorrect I just smile and say “please don’t let it ruin your day, I meant well”. (note there was no apology there) Life is too short for all this **** these politically correct morons have dumped on us.

  4. I’m with you on this Matt. I’m not religious by any stretch, yet the zeal to strip away any and all connotations is equally ridiculous. There are so many missed opportunities to learn something cultural about others when we plug our ears and mask our eyes, trying to make believe it doesn’t exist. Worse, the educational institutions charged with, well, education, are largely responsible for this whitewashing attempt for fear of offending someone.Merry Christmas Matt. Peace.

  5. Amen!As you probably know, I’m a Christian. And despite some of the things I’ve said on my blog that some might feel would disqualify me from making the following statement, I consider myself a rather devout Christian. Having said all of that, I wholeheartedly agree with you.If someone were to wish me, for instance today, Happy Hanukkah, I would say, “Thank you! That’s very nice of you!”, or words to that effect. I most certainly would feel no need to get up in someone’s grill for wishing me, in effect, a nice day (or eight, as the case may be.)As a Libertarian AND a Christian (which means I don’t believe in the inevitability of either death OR taxes, but I digress) I couldn’t agree more with your live and let live philosophy.All around, well done! And thank you!

  6. Here here! I too get grumpy when the joy of a group is squashed to serve one child. I’ve mentioned elsewhere a kindergarten near here where the same decision was made, no learning carols, no singing together, no crafting decorations, no learning parts for the Christmas play. No celebrations at all. How empty. The let’s not offend idea taken to extreme. There was another kinder, made a different decision so as not to exclude: they celebrated and learnt from ALL the different ethnicities, ate the celebratory food, discussed and learnt about the symbolism and the countries that the kids came from. Which one promotes tolerance and understanding? Which one extends the kids (and possibly parents) and encourages them to LEARN from others?If one knew about the decision beforehand I’d be going in and sharing the idea of actually educating children about difference and acceptance. (yep, I do get grumpy don’t I!)Have a Happy Christmas :PSue

  7. I’m not a Christian, either and I don’t celebrate Christmas as Jesus’ birthday. I don’t mind saying Merry Christmas (or Xmas) or changing it to Happy Holidays as to not offend those who don’t celebrate Christmas. As to the poor kid who can’t celebrate any holidays – the classroom had to change to show respect for all religions. The same reason that they don’t pray in school – to respect those that wish to raise their children in a faith other than Christian (or not in a faith at all). Would you be upset if the schools started prayer again? It can be a pain, especially for those of us who don’t see it as a religious holiday but it’s meant to be respectful to all – even the minority.

  8. At the risk of utter banality, AMEN! I’m a Christian. I like to believe I’m a fairly solid one, perhaps just this side of outright fundamentalist. However, I couldn’t agree more with your statement…

    “If you’re (insert other religion here), and you want to wish me a happy (C)Hanukhah, or Kwanza, or whatever! I’m perfectly fine with that, I will smile happily (I won’t even have to fake a smile!) and return the greeting. I don’t immediately think you’re trying to convert me, I don’t believe you’re trying to wish me your greeting instead of mine in an attempt to squash mine, etc… I just believe you’re wishing me the same peace, love and happiness you feel when you celebrate your holiday, and I thank you.”

    We have become far too worried about offending people who, I believe, in most instances, won’t become offended. Sure, one or two folks raise a stink (IMVHO, usually from a misperception) and we apologize and bend over backwards to see they are offended no further. Well, you know what? I (and you, and we) have no reason to apologize or hide our beliefs in most instances, no matter what those beliefs or non-beliefs may be. The few who become indignant should just learn that “sticks and stones” thing that most of our mothers taught us.

    God bless you (and I mean that in whatever way you wish it!)

  9. Heh! I just now read the other comments and I see I responded before. Oh, well. I’ve been known to run re-runs on my blog, so I suppose it doesn’t hurt my rep any to repeat myself in someone’s comments section!

    • Hah! Not at all! I have a module in this wordpress blog called “Old post promoter”. It’s set to take an old post at random, and publish it as the second post on the list here.

      Not sure I’m going to keep it running, just wanted to futz with it.

      But your comment is no less meaningful anyway! 😀

      I think this original post was actually in response to a similar one you posted around Xmas time.

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